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Livre Jardins Forêts, de Fabrice Desjours

Je suis en train de lire
qui m'a été prêté par Xavier Carrier, un autre passionné de plantes qui plante à Veissieux le Bas.
il y a un site qui reprend une petite partie des infos du livre ; en fait il n'y a pas vraiment de liens internes:
Je Diconne pas , c'est là son jardin forêt! https://www.laforetnourriciere.org/la-foret-gourmande/ . Je vais prendre rendez vous pour une visite , et inviter Fabrice à Reyrieux.
Excellent bouquin!

Plantes de Reyrieux : usages

La liste d'arbres et arbustes m'apprend beaucoup sur les usages, y compris des arbres qui sont ici au parc du Clos depuis parfois 30 ans
(* = pour Grand Champ, JM je peux fournir)
  • Amelanchier canadensis * JM à multiplier
  • Matteucia strutopteris
  • Hosta sp , sous le tilleul *
  • Galium mollugo, ombre légère *
  • Hemerocallis fulvar * JM
  • Centranthus ruber , soleil * JM
  • Xanthoceras sorbifolium *
  • Sassafras albidum *
  • Sambucus nigra JM * ; cultivars Donau , Bradet, Franzi, Viridis
  • Rosa rugosa * JM
  • Rubus setchuennensis, et bien d'autres ronces sans épines *
  • Punica granatum var. Fina Tendral, déjà à GC; en multiplication
  • Myrica cerifera, croissance rapide! *
  • Lonicera caerula * ; 2 cultivars ici ; à multiplier
  • Hibiscus syriacus: fleurs, feuilles
  • Halesis carolina * ; mi-ombre; fructifications immatures ; à multiplier
  • Cornus kousa, présent ici, variétés Satomi et Christine; mi-ombre, sol frai humifère * ; à déplacer !
  • Arbutus unedo; ne donne pas beaucoup ici; le fruit mûrit en un an à partir de l'automne
  • Morus (mûriers) , ici variétés Wellington et M. macroura Pakistan, donnent déjà, résiste à la secheresse * à multiplier
  • Hovenia dulcis , pédoncules sucrés, mellifère * à multiplier
  • Ginkgo biloba, noix excellents, trouver arbre femelle, var. Ohasuki, King of Dongting, Eastern Star, Doctor Causton, Saratoga mâle
  • Eucommia ulmoides; jeunes pousses cuites, * à multiplier
  • Eucalyptus gunni , sirop de sève ; il y a 600 espèces d'Eucalyptus, dont 10 ou 20 rustiques !
  • Ehretia dicksonii, fruits; j'ai déjà des fruits de la Tête d'Or ; j'ai un Ehretia dicksonii (peut-être pas le bon) , qui gèle tous les ans depuis 20 ans ; * à multiplier
  • Diospyros virginiana, peu de fruits moins savoureux que Diospyros kaki; ATTENTION ça drageonne à 30 m ! ; à COMMANDER variétés Prok, Keener; hybrides virginiana X kaki , créés pour la rusticité, mais à essayer pour la résistance au froid
  • Diospyros lotus , déjà planté à GC pour greffage ; NOTE : se ressèmer beaucoup trop !
  • Diospyros kaki, variétés à Reyrieux: Fuyu, Jiro, Izu, kaki mou classique ; tableau des kakis à Reyrieux et GC
  • Castanea mollissima, C. dentata X mollissima
  • Cydonia oblonga = coing , climat sec: Champion, monstrueux de Vranja, Meeches prolific, Gamboa
  • Carya ovata, semé ici ! ; essayer var. Grainger, Glover, Wesche, Yoder, Wilcox
  • Carya laciniosa, semé ici ! ; essayer var. Henry, Fayette
  • Carya illinoinensis; vieux sujet de 25 ans ici, fruits minuscules et peu nombreux => planté var. Northern star
    • essayer var. Lucas, Carlson 3, Snaps, Deerstand, Campbell NC4
  • Asimina triloba: ici Prima, Sunflower, jeunes plants 2 ans de plantation; un arbre de semis de 10 ans environ; rejet planté à GC
  • Humulus lupulus = houblon * JMJuglans nigra, présent à GC
  • J. cinerea;  *
  • Tilia cordata : arbre, feuilles; trogne alimentaire !
  • Amelanchier canadensis * JM

Plantes recherchées

Et ça me remet en mémoire d'autres qui sont dans mon radar depuis longtemps
  • Amelanchier alnifolia, A. laevis, A. lamarckii * ; var. Northline, Smoky, etc existe une pépinière spécialisée: ???
  • Gevuina, milieu frais, un peu gélif
  • Noix en coeur Juglans ailanthifolia cordiformis *
  • Pistachier *
  • Pinus cembroides, pinus edulis, P. koraensis, P. sibirica, P. pumila *
  • Quercus ilex ballota *
  • Claytonia sibirica , sol frais , ombre
  • Aponogeton distachyos, aquatique
  • Ugni molinae, -10° ombre légère
  • Torreya nocifera, noix grasses, mi-ombre; graines à prendre à la Tête d'Or *
  • Elaeagnus multiflora = goumi * ; variétés New Gate, Jewel, Pointilla, Fortunella
  • Drimys winteri, mi-ombre humidité
  • Decaisnea fargesii, mi-ombre humidité
  • Cephalotaxus harringtonia, ; graines à prendre à la Tête d'Or *
  • Castanea pumila
  • Caragana arborescens: haricot vert en arbustes! *
  • Berberis darwinii
  • Aralia elata , mi-ombre *
  • Toona sinensis (Cedrela) : arbre, feuilles; trogne alimentaire ! *
  • Mespilus germanica * , variétés Royal, Large Russain, Monstrueuse d'Evreinoff, Ekmoarstersyl, Apyrena
  • Malus sierversii, le mythique pommier d'Asie centrale, origine principale des variétés cultivées *
  • Kalopanax septemlobus, feuilles et mellifère
  • Idesia polycarpa , sol frais et riche *
  • Firmana simplex, graines oléagineuses, mellifère
  • Pistachia vera; déjà échoué 2 fois ici de chez Bosc; je vais commander ailleurs : ??? *
  • Moringa oleifera, culture en annuelle ou arbre subtropical, pour la serre

Il faut avoir un peigne à baies !


Plantes vivaces
  • Zinziber mioga: sous le tilleul *
  • Typha latifolia: bord du ruisseau
  • Vigna subterranea: similaire arachide *
  • Sedum spectabile * JM
  • Physalis alkekengi , terre fertile, sous le tilleul JM *
  • Myrrhis odorata , sous le tilleul *
  • Dioscorea batatas -= igname , soleil *
  • Apios americana , tubercules + haricots! *

Je vais solliciter Greffer.net , un excellent site pour échanger des greffons.
Commande(s)
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Agrumes rustiques
J'ai déjà à Reyrieux une collection de 6 variétés, dont Thomasville qui fructifie déjà (provenance Sebtan qui n'expédie plus; venez goûter ici à Reyrieux)
J'ai 9 plants du porte greffe rustique pour agrumes Poncirus, semis 2020, à planter à l'automne pour greffer en 2022 ou 3 ; Cédric en a d'autres.

Manque à  Grand Champ


Pour réunion mer. 22 sept. 2021

On pourrait essayer Pépinières Quissac
801 Route de St Come  St Etienne d'Escattes  30250 Souvignargues Site Internet
cf http://www.fruitiers-rares.info/articles-A123a128/article124-pepinieres-fruitiers-rares-France.html

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Espèces plantées

  • Juglans nigra : 2 (fourni par J.M.V.) (noyer noir américain, dur à casser mais très bon) - NOTES: maturité à 12-15 ans ! bois précieux, possibilité de planter plus serré puis éclaircir et utiliser le bois.
  • châtaigner : 3  (fourni par Sophie) 
  • noyer : 2  (fourni par Sophie) - NOTE: maturité à 10 ans !

Espèces Proposées

Proposées par Jean-Marc

Voici une liste des arbres que je peux fournir cet automne 2019

  • Dispopyros virginiana (à greffer en 2021)
  • Morus semis naturels (à greffer en 2021)
  • Asimina triloba (graines)
  • figuier du grand-père

A planter printemps 2010

  • Carya laciniosa (semis Sheffields.com) : noix savoureuse , coque normale, pollinisation croisée souhaitable ; présent à la Tête d'Or
  • Carya glabra (semis Sheffields.com) : noix amère ou douces, coque épaisse!
  • Carya ovalis (semis Sheffields.com): noix amère ou douces, coque épaisse!
  • Juglans microcarpa (noyer du Texas)  (semis Sheffields.com) ; petit noyer à petites noix ; résistant à la sécheresse
  • grenadier Fina Tendral , bouture
  • Asimina triloba, rejets à séparer au printemps

Greffons à greffer

  • azérolier (Crataegus azarolus)

A noter

  • Dispopyros lotus: pas conseillé, se ressème trop
  • Juglans ailanthifolia (noyer japonais) : je soupçonne que l'exemplaire du Clos à Reyrieux est en fait un J. nigra, ou hybride ? 

Notions de fructification (rappels)

  • plantes à fleurs hermaphrodites (pommiers, etc), monoïques (noyers, etc), dioïques (pistachiers, caroubiers, etc)
  • pollinisation: vent , insectes
  • autofertiles, ou besoin de d'individus pollinisateurs

Voir aussi

Liste de plantes disponibles - fin été 2019 - J.M. Vanel, <http://semantic-forms.cc:1952/ldp/1566228725827-11329269738786899>fruitiers-rares.info / pépinières fruitiers rares France

  • Mes arbres pour la sécheresse ( plutôt dans une optique abeilles, pour Laurence ) : Arbres pour le changement climatique, <http://semantic-forms.cc:1952/ldp/1569999095753-15099639664460831>
  • Plantations pour la sécheresse http://semantic-forms.cc:1952/ldp/1571907995257-17008539168637183
  • Espèces plantées au verger

    ( à compléter )
    • Asimina triloba
    • Feijoa XXX
    • pêcher XXX
    • pommier XXX
    • poirier XXX
    • kiwi XXX

    Equipe

    • Laurence F.
    • Claudine
    • Dominique
    • Sophie D.
    • Jean-Marc V.
    • Anne C.
    • Emilie B.
    • Claudine B.
    • Annick B.

    pas inscrit(e)s mais présents 13 octobre: Rachel, Lucille.

    Voir liste "officielle" https://lite.framacalc.org/PfSUPIJbu9

    Cartes

    https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/45.94100/4.75585

    geoportail.gouv.fr / carte : QUESTION : "avons" nous toute la parcelle 77 ?


    Réunion

    Sondage pour la date https://framadate.org/DDOd98iuSPrXrtps

    Ca semble donc plié pour le 6 novembre à 19 h .
    J'ai clos le sondage.

    Je vous propose de venir chez moi: 
    778 Grande Rue, 01600 Reyrieux, (face rue du Lavoir, numérotation métrique )
    Monter le chemin, ne pas se garer dans la rue; le portail est discret et en retrait de la rue au bout d'une allée d'ifs.

    Compte-Rendu 6 novembre 

    Liens proposés :


    Rappel du programme régulier de Grand Champ

    Lors de la réunion de dimanche, nous avons évoqué le souhait de certains de caler un autre créneau de jardinage en commun et de récolte (en plus du mercredi et du samedi en fin d'après-midi), plutôt en semaine et le matin. Voici un sondage pour que tout le monde puisse s'exprimer : https://framadate.org/XFcj6oZ84Jw5Ktyq



    En fonction des réponses, nous acterons ça lors de la prochaine réunion jardinière, ce qui me permet de vous rappeler les dates (toujours à 17h) : 
      • samedi 5 octobre,
      • dimanche 3 Novembre, 
      • samedi 7 Décembre.
    Il était envisagé ces jours là de faire un pique nique puis de travailler ensemble jusqu'à 17h, mais ça n'a vraisemblablement pas convaincu, donc au reste juste sur l'idée de réunion à 17h pour l'instant. La prochaine sera au jardin, après on avisera.




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